How do you live with water when there simply isn't enough of it? In this episode, architect Pablo Castillo Luna reads his text "Arid Infrastructures: Water beyond techno-optimism in the island of Lanzarote."

In this final episode of Inclusion Talks, we take a closer look at how the growing use of AI in architecture and design processes risks reinforcing historical assumptions about what is deemed ‘normal’, with the consequence that difference is filtered out, concealed, and ultimately erased.

Listen as CENTRALA delves into their work on celestial architecture in this podcast made as part of the 2025 Copenhagen Architecture Biennial.